We took our new Dun Filly to the AWS inspections on saturday. This filly is superb in balance, conformation and movement. We came into the barn of Fresians, Holstieners, Oldenburgs, and Dutch Warmbloods. Everyone was eyeing up dawn and telling us what a superb girl she was. When we went into her inspection the Judge too was in awe. This filly floated and behave enormously well for her first time off the farm. The judge does an open forum inspection so everyone can hear the scores and reason being. She gave Dawn a 7.2 for walk, 7.6 for trot, 8.0 for conformation and 8.0 for Sporthorse potential. She used her to the crowd explain a quality filly came from such a fine cross of our appendix mare Chilli and Kaseyn. I was beaming as I left.

AFter the scores were tallied I was surprised by our total of 74.75 and wanted to know why. The scores were not the same as she had stated infront of about 25 people including a handler for me with my mare because I had the foal. When I found the error I asked the people within the crowd and our handler incase I had miss heard. Nope I was correct in what she had stated. I went to the judge and asked her about it. I asked her if she remember giving my filly an 8.0 for conformation and she did. Then said on the score sheet it was a 7.2 walk, 7.3 trot, 7.6 conformation, 8.0 for sporthorse. I asked her if we could discuss it and correct it. She told me to wait until prior to awards time. I waited and then the next thing I know 5 minutes after the last horse it was hurry up awards time. She did not change my scoring to reflect what she had told not only me but about 25 other people had heard it. It does matter for this filly should have total score of 77% blue preferred and put her in the running for year end awards. Plus a supreme scoring of an 8.0 in conformation is a great selling point. Kaseyn made a real name for himself that day and I want his filly to reflect his quality and conformation genetics.
Now if she had originally scored her as a 7.6 at the inspection I would have been happy with it, but she said an 8.0 and now I am dissappointed it was not correct on her inspection score card.
I am going to take it up with AWS. How would I go about this as a professional ?? The inspector refused to fix the score stating her scribe would not have gotten it wrong, but yet admitted earlier she remember giving Dawn an 8.0. Frustration is not a word that discribes this now. WE did walk away with the highest score over all and a gold medal and this may seem petty, but the big picture is what I am looking at.

Here is a photo of the filly at 30 days old.
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thank you
copper

Dear Copper,
I sure hope you get this straightened out to your satisfaction. It would be unfair to your filly to let the error stand.
However, if it makes you feel any better, I think your filly is a perfect "10"!!!
Mary

We already discussed in chat what I would do, gf.........GOOOOOOOOOOOO for it!


IN.......CYNSED

Thank you Mary, that is quite a compliment.

Cy you bet I will be talking with them today. Thank you all for letting me vent

Copper

Did you happen to tape it? or anyone in the crowd? Or I would get signatures of any of the people in the crowd if possible Mer

It would be nice if it was taped! I would try to get the score corrected, also, since you need those points for your highpoint at the end of the year. Good luck and let us know how it goes!

How disappointed you must feel! I hope you are able to get this worked out. I'm not familiar with AWS inspections, but if I was at a show I would want to speak with the judge, scribe, show manager and TD...
Good luck!

WEll I have made my formal complaint and talked to both judge and AWS themselves. The inspection was taped at first but there after ran out of tape. Dawn was not taped due to being at the end of the youngsters. I do have affidavids from many that were there but hope they will not have to get involved on an honest mistake. Thank you all for your encouragement. I emailed a formal complain after talking directly with the AWS. Wanted to keep it personal but professional.

Copper

will keep you informed everyone.

AWS has notified me there will be no change in the scoring of Dawn. They state that I and the audience think we heard an 8.0 but the judge insists she is scoring a 7.6 for conformation. Twelve people had signed an affidavid of scoring heard, but AWS will be sticking with their paper scores instead of the open forum narrated scores.

copper

Can you take her to another AWS inspection in the future? If it is that important to you, I would try that. Similar to showing - one judge sees things at a show, another judge does not.

I helped arrange an AWS inspection in Hillard, OH in 2001 so I can relate to your story about how fast it went, and I know the cost. But, paper vs. oral - what can ya do? Take her again - hope you have better luck.