This is not my mare but thought someone might be interested in her says she's a great trail horse. She was owned by a Marva Culberson, name sounds familiar is that someone on here and i just don't know your signon or maybe i emailed on a horse for sale but the name rings a bell. Maybe if she is on here she can give more info on her.

http://www.dreamhorse.com./show_horse.php?...orse_id=1330841

And out of a Barbary daughter!!!!!!!!

The owner says that this is a maiden mare and that she needs her teeth floated. She wrote that this is one of the reasons for her price. I think she is 18 or 19 years old. I haven't looked at her in person and the lady hasn't sent pics so I have no idea what she looks like. This part of Oregon has Pigeon Fever so I haven't gone out and looked at this mare, because I have a pregnant mare at home and it hasn't frozen here yet. From what I've been told after the first main freeze the bacteria dies. Pigeon fever can get passed pretty easy like from clothing to the uneffected horse. This is the reason I have kept my horses at home and have not gone any were with them or let any visit me. I don't what my horses to get this dease. They think the main vector is the common flies so all you can do is pray and keep your horse away from other horses. This part of Oregon has canceled all horse shows in the area until further notice. I don't want to scare anyone, just to inform. Education is the best medicine, and by no means do I think this mare has Pigeon Fever. I just think people should be informed that it is in the area.

Ok , I have never heard of Pigeon Fever??? Please tell me more about this, I live in Ma. on the East Coast.
Thanks, Lisa

Lisa,

I'm also learning about the disease. Here is a little informtion.


Pigeon fever most commonly causes deep infections and abscesses in the chest and lower neck. (It has nothing to do with pigeons, except that the swollen chest makes the horse look like a pigeon.) It is also sometimes called pigeon breast (not to be confused with the congenital condition in humans that causes an abnormally shaped chest), breastbone fever (though it has nothing to do with the breastbone), false strangles, dryland strangles, and dryland distemper. (And by now you won't be surprised to learn that strangles and distemper are lay terms for a streptococcal infection in horses that has nothing to do with pigeon fever). Pigeon fever can cause a fever. In the early stages, the only other symptoms may be lethargy and an arthritis-like lameness.

The disease is caused by a bacteria ("corynebacteria"), which can also cause similar diseases in sheep, goats and cattle, but not humans. I could find no evidence of it causing disease in dogs although we have been trying to cure an unusual swelling on a dog's neck for a few weeks now. The same bacteria can cause deeper internal abscesses, and draining infections in the legs of horses.

Corynebacteria can live in dirt, bedding, etc, and seems to be commonly spread by biting flies. It can infect open wounds, inflamed skin, and can penetrate mucus membranes, so it could also be spread by contaminated tack, brushes, and feed and water buckets. You could spread it by contact with your hands or gloves. Sanitation is important. The pus that drains from abscesses should be collected, if possible, and disposed of properly. After the initial infection it may take weeks for the swellings to develop, and though the prognosis is good with proper treatment, it may be weeks before the disease is cured. Dr. Egland said they generally don't see new cases in the winter, but based on his experience, they may be treating abscesses into December.

With this and other infections that form abscesses, it may be best to not use antibiotics until the abscess comes to a head, breaks open or can be lanced, and the pus can drain out. Before that happens, antibiotics may not cure the infection, and may only slow down the development of the abscess. Diagnostic ultrasound may be used to check for deep internal abscesses. Other supportive care, like intravenous fluids and medication to control pain and inflammation may be needed. Every case is different and the best treatment will depend on the examination and evaluation of the attending veterinarian, and how the patient responds to treatment as the case progresses.

Dr. Rustebakke was in an equine practice in the central coastal region of California in the mid 1970's where the disease was common then. The first cases he saw here in the Northwest were in 1987, and then there were very few cases until another outbreak in 2003. Last year was not too bad, but this year there is a major outbreak, with more cases from the Camus Prairie, the Palouse, and, according to the University of Colorado, throughout most western states. There's no vaccination, but you can get good veterinary care, and that's important.

Sounds like a nice mare. Hope she finds a good home

"Piegeon Fever" also mistakenly called "Dryland Distemper" is caused by the Corynebacterium pseudotuberculosis.

In my experience, back in the 80's- 90'sit was not highly contagious at all. My vets at the time said you would see it in perhaps 10% of the horses at a barn. Well we had about 80 horses at the barn and at that time maybe one or two would get it. Usually we would just see it in one horse a year. In fact the year we had two with it, they were as far away on the property from each other as they could be. (26 acres). Also we had horses living together in the same pens where one would have it and the other two or three would not.

Where it got dangerous is when the abcesses go internal. Which one of mine did (the only horse to have it that year). He made it through with treatment.

You DO NOT want to use antibiotics unless absolutely necessary as that can encourage the development of internal abcesses. Rifampin was the drug of choice in those bad cases.

So although they do say it is highly contagious, again I had at least a decade of experience with it and did not find that to be the case.

I would go see the mare if you are interersted and not be worried about passing the disease on.

wow if only the transportation wasn't so much...she'd be quite the mare for me....although I'd love pictures.....this mare will be great for someone...and look at those bloodlines!

I don't know this mare but I have a Suzie Creek mare and I bred to their stallion , Mary who also posts here has a Suzie Creek horse too . They are very well bred good quality horses who were raised on a large ranch in Elko . Rawar was a great park horse , Huck was of course an EP horse , Barbary Park/Halter . This mare might be a great buy for someone interested in some EP/Park blood and willing to try to get her in foal .

this mares price has dropped to only $700 now