Does anyone have information on the stallion *Vallehermoso and what horses of his line are like? My mom has an older mare that is a *Vallehermoso daughter, unfortunately she has had some pretty rough handling and bad experiences. How are the minds on this line generally? We have been working with her for a couple of years and we still don't know what all of her triggers are. She had a really nice colt last year and is a wonderful mom, I'm just not sure if she is going to settle enough to be my little brother's riding horse. Any info on this line would be helpful. Thanks!

Festivity,

I suggest that you put *Vallehermoso into the search box at the top of the page and check all forum threads. I just did and 8 different threads came up on *Vallehermoso. Getting in touch with the "raina4" might be of help: Link to Vallehermoso post

He is the sire of the extremely popular sire in europe called El Perfecto out of Example by *Barich de Washoe. I have worked with El Perfecto get and they are extremely quick to learn, are highly sensitive and need patience and time. I would not say that they were a beginners horse. *Vallehermoso himself was an extremely showy stallion with a lot of vitality. Apparently, the one thing that he could not learn to tolerate was to be shut up in a trailer which was one of the major reasons he was not shown more extensively. Simply a very bad case of claustraphobia. I have spoken to one of his onetime trainers who verified that she had no problems with his tempermant but that it was very evident that *Vallehermoso was a stallion which needed to be asked to do things not bullied. I feel that is a very correct way of explaining how to get the best out of any of the Spanish arabian bloodlines. They have wonderful temperments and are generally easy going horses. However they must be treated with respect in order for them to respect the handler. They do not tolerate being pushed around.

As for your mare, she sounds high strung and may well keep this attitude throughout her life. Some horses have a higer level of the flight or fight instinct and she may well be one of them. This occurrs in all bloodlines by the way. Woking with her colt consistantly from the very beginning to build up its confidence and trust in human beings could possibly change this instictive behavior which he will be learning from his dam.

Lisa

Hi,
I don't post much..mostly lurk ( : but I was wondering if anyone had any pictures of this stallion also.
My neighbor has a *Vallehermoso daughter .......20+ years and she is a gengle as a lamb on the ground but onboard she is a fireball ! I hope your mare settles down enough for your brother, is it ?

Would love to see pictures of him..I've only seen small photos ,head shots.

Thanks!

There are some photos of *Vallehermoso at the szedalbums on flickr Just put his name into the search box at the top of the page and shots of Vallehermoso and many of his get will come up: Vallehermoso and Get

enjoy,
Lisa

*El Perfecto was bred in US and exported to europe was owned by fernando Haumer and then leased and then sold to Mariweta salas of spain his current owner. with Marieta's mares he has founded his own dynasty through his many sons and daughters.

Thanks for all of your responses! Lisa, you post in particular helps quite a bit. She is an older mare, coming 22 this year. We definitely don't try to force her to do anything, but any time you ask her to do something new she becomes belligerent and braces herself to be beat. She has never been treated rough here, but she was somewhat of a rescue. She knows what is being asked of her most of the time, she is incredibly smart, but her first response to anything is no. Her colt isn't anything like her, he isn't afraid of anything and he respects only a few people. I will see if I can get decent pictures of the two of them to post. Thanks!

Go to the source. Call Gerry Alexander (530)333-4243 and he will answer your questions. Knew Valle during the time that Brumarba owned him and never saw anything mean in him or his get.

Which peeves me off!!! He should have stayed here, so we could all breed to him!!!! He got to be one of the most fantastic things with 4 legs.

If I had a dolla for all the great ones that end up across the pond.....

El Perfecto had a younger full brother which stayed in the states and several full sisters: EL Conquistador a 1989 bay stallion with 19 get which died in 1998. El Perfecto himself was used as a breeding stallion by his breeder Bru-Mar-Ba prior to export. They bred three colts and a filly Two of the colts have been gelded , one remains a stallion and the mare shows no registered progeny. One of the geldings DURC +/ has had several Champion, Reserve Champion and Top 5 wins in Hunt Pleasure and Dressage besides being pinned Top Ten Sport Horse Under Saddle and in A/HA/AA Dressage First Level AT at the Sport Horse National Championships in 2004. The other gelding was shown locally in Regions 7 & 8 and had many first place wins in Western Pleasure and in Stallion breeding before being gelded. The colt left entire , El Persuader 1991 bay stallion was available at public stud but left only 4 get. All these El Perfecto progeny were straight classical Spanish. His blood was in the states to be used, it just was not done so at the time.

Perhaps his quality simply was not appreciated He is far smaller than the american breeder generally chooses for a stallion. Perhaps the european breeders who were interested in preserving the straight spanish lines needed the infusion of his bloodlines more than the americans and from that incentive found that he was and is a truely prepontent breeding stallion. They afterall had never had acess to *Barich de Washoe and his prolific line. Using El Perfecto extensively throughout europe brought those well-known lines back to the genetic pool.

Lisa

There is a personable stallion here in Alberta that is named El Zapatero that is a Vallehermoso grandson through
Ibn Valle. Ibn Valle is siring on the East coast I believe and created a nice endurance horse or two.

El Zapatero is also double Bariche De Washoe - and BruMarBa influenced breeding and throws some darn beautiful and well put together part breds and purebreds. I say this as I have seen some and own a daughter of his that is 15hh.

I have heard from others that El Perfecto sires hot. I really, really wanted to breed my El Zapatero daughter back into his line but she is hot as well (her dam line was known for this), so I am not so sure that would be a good thing. She is exceptionally smart - voice trained for all kinds of things and has strong fight or flight instincts with people she does not trust. She has part-bred siblings from El Zapatero who are absolute dolls, one mare in particular is part thoroughbred and could be my mares twin.

It is really too bad this bloodline was not used more here in North America. El Perfecto is the only stallion that has ever match Gladys Brown Edwards drawing of the perfect Arabian. I actually superimposed his photo on top of her drawing, along with other stallion that were used for a discussion on another forum about type. But that is just my opinion!

If El Perfecto ever comes to the Las Vegas Show I will be in the front row. Guaranteed! Here is to dreaming....

Raye Anne