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Luckily I was able to locate this amongst all the "clutter" of files on my'puter, lol. Excuse any typos; Dominique had typed this up many years ago for me straight from her books. My files are kind of a 'mess'/some things running on/together, so as I copy & paste, I'll *try* to get the paragraphs where they probably should be...? This will be very long, lol, so I'll break it down into multiple posts...ENJOY! ARABIAN HORSE BREEDING AT THE ROYAL STUD OF WEIL AND AT THE HAUPT-UND LANDGESTUT MARBACH by Dr. Georg Wenzler
The beginning of the Arabian Stud of the Royal Horse Breeding Institute at Weil, 1817-1836
“At the turn of the 18th century Arab horses were considered all over Europe to be the best horses of the world, and the most suited to improve all other horse breeds and especially ours in Germany”. K.W. Ammon
It is not surprising, in view of the above quotation, that princes and other potentates endeavoured to outdo each other in acquiring Arabian horses. At that time a number of Arabian studs were established in Europe, some of which have had a lasting influence, not only in their own country, but in the rest of Europe. One of the most important and famous of these was Weil, the Private Stud of the Kings of Wurttemberg.
The Weil Stud, located in the Neckar valley of Stuttgart, became renowned not only for its ancient history as the Private Stud of the Kings of Wurttemberg, but especially for its achievements in horse breeding. Weil horses left their mark on the entire horse breeding industry in Europe, their influence was unequalled. The founder of the Stud was Crown Prince William, later King William I of Wurttemberg, who bore the title of “rex agricolorum”; he had a great love for agriculture, and especially horses, and the founding of the Weil Stud in 1817 was a work very close to his heart. In the difficult years after the Napoleonic Wars the King was concerned with boosting Swabian agriculture, still in its early stages, in order to provide food for his people. In this the horse played an important part as an essential means of transport. Moreover, at that time a supply of horses meant military strength and dynastic power. The King therefore wished to use the Arabian in the interests of his country. Although a personal and private venture, it must be stressed that the breeding of pure Arabians was not an end by itself, the ultimate end was to improve the local horse breeds.
In contrast to other European Arab studs, the interests of the private and the national studs were kept strictly separate. William I personally arranged for purebred Arabians to be provided to upgrade local horses, mostly kept by small farmers, and at the same time pursued with great single-mindedness his idea of breeding pure Arabians on the basis of original desert-bred stock. He therefore purchased not only stallions but also numerous mares in the East, who were to provide the foundation for his stud. This fact is worth mentioning, especially as there were several Arabian studs, at home and abroad, which used their Arab stallions primarily to improve their local breeds. It is true that there were also some establishments concentrating on purebred Arabians, but they later disappeared and much valuable blood was lost through crossbreeding. Weil may justly claim to be the purest source of Arabian blood, the symbol of continuous breeding towards an ideal Arabian for more than 150 years, and the focal point of a whole era in Europe.
As early as 1810, William I, as Crown Prince, had assigned Scharnhausen, his summer residence, for horse breeding. He had mares of various breeding and used the chestnut Arabian stallion Emir, who had been imported by Baron von Fechtig. Emir was the King’s personal riding horse and had proved himself in the Wars of Independence. He does not appear to have been greatly appreciated as a sire of purebreds because later, he and his sons were only used for partbreds, where they were very successful. The King was so impressed by his performance that he issued a “Supreme Decret of 30th September 1817”, declaring the domains of Weil, Scharnhausen, and Kleinhohenheim as a Private Royal Stud.
The King had little enthusiasm for the breeding methods then in use. He planned his stud based exclusively on the best Arabian strains. He chose as foundation the Seglawi Jedran strain. In 1816 the mare Murana I was purchased by Baron von Fechtig and brought to Weil, she was to prove the foundation mare. In 1817 Baron von Fechtig brought seven more mares and the stallions Bairactar and Tajar from the Orient. While Tajar proved unsuitable as a sire and had to be sold, the grey Bairactar was a great success. For over a hundred years his stock dominated Weil breeding. With the help of Catherine, wife of William I and sister of Czar Alexander of Russia, the Russian Count Wenceslas Rzewusky, who had spent two years in Arabia, was commissioned to buy more horses there. The eight Arab stallions and twelve mares imported by him in 1819 were of excellent quality. They included Hassfoura, Elkanda, Schakra, Murana, Geyran, and Abululu. These mares and their descendants were the glory of Weil. Among them was Goumousch-Bournou, a stallion of the Seglawi Jedran strain, a well built and powerful horse. Bred to him, the imported mares, noted for their refinement, had descendants with good bone, thus producing a type combining robust hardiness and refinement, the type preferred by the King. Indeed these were the very qualities with which the King wanted to stamp the Wurttemberg horse - hence his desire for a bigger and stronger horse than the Arabians known at the time.
First breeding results may have been unspectacular in spite of the fact that eminent experts were responsible for these imports. It was soon recognized that best results were achieved by breeding pure Arabians. The King showed great personal interest in the Arabian stud and seized every opportunity to add new importations to his original stock, regardless of cost. The purchase in 1821 of the mares Hamdany I and Czebessie I added a valuable extension. They came to Weil via the Hungarian Stud of Babolna. Hamdany I was to become celebrated through her daughter Sady III, the dam of Amurath 1829.
In 1822 the Weil Stud consisted of: 18 pure Arabian broodmares, 17 of which were imported from the desert, and 1 bred at Weil; 10 pure Arabian colts, between 1 and 5 years of age; 13 pure Arabian fillies, between 1 and 5 years of age.
When Bairactar became senior stallion, he soon attracted the attention of the experts. Year after year the King had the satisfaction of admiring the quality of his offspring. To this day this magnificent stallion remains the ideal Arabian horse, and contemporary representations attest to his refinement, elegance and incomparable harmony. He was undoubtedly one of the best stallions ever to come from the Orient. For twenty years he was senior stallion. He is the foundation stallion on which the stud was built and upon whose blood were based the many successes which established the fame of Weil all over Europe. The severe selection which was practiced, even with very expensive horses, speaks for the farsightedness of the breeder. Any animal which did not come up to the required standard was ruthlessly discarded. Mares lacking quality or refinement, or too light in bone, or barren, were eliminated. But fertile and long-living mares and stallions were treasured all the more and bred from as long as possible.
Among the sons of Bairactar, Aleppo (sold to Russia), Mazud, and Bairactar II, as well as the two stallions Selim 1828 and Amurath 1829, both out of Sady III, became famous. Amurath 1829 was an outstandingly successful sire who, through careful inbreeding, brought the inheritance of his sire to full glory in his sons and grandsons. It must be said here that at the time inbreeding was held in low esteem, and it was only the success of inbreeding at Weil which encouraged breeders to overcome their reluctance and break away from the traditional method of outcrossing. Today we know that such breeding methods with horses of sound inheritance can lead to consolidating their good qualities. At Weil this method led to many successes within a short time. The King, however, did not rest on his laurels, and initiated several more imports, expanding the stud far beyond the scope originally planned. This made severe selection possible, and the Weil Arabians soon became known, and sought for, all over Europe. They improved and refined many local breeds.
The Weil Stud reached its first peak with Amurath 1829, a stallion descended from the mating of Bairactar with the Hamdany I line. Amurath 1829 was senior stallion from 1836 to 1856, and the best and most famous son of Bairactar. He had inherited the latter’s refinement and pureness of Arabian type. The spectacular rise of Weil owes much to his performance and he laid the foundation on which the breeding was built over several decades. He outclassed all other stallions tested from time to time as potential sires.
The farsightedness and expertise with which the King directed the stud won him the recognition of the most discerning experts; it was an acknowledged fact “that progeny bred at Weil had more bone, more size, better conformation, and greater uniformity than their ancestors”. His breeding methods appear modern and progressive even today. We owe it to him, in this Stud Book, to testify to the singlemindedness he applied to the fulfillment of his goal. Today some people may disagree with the objectives set by the King who, in addition to Arabian type, sought larger size and stronger build. But his endeavours were not merely wishful thinking. Baron von Hugel in 1860 reported that “in the Orient, too, size is greatly sought after and fetches the highest prices”. This seems to be a significant observation and a reminder to be open minded about size. Seen in this light, links with other warm-blood horse breeds might have been maintained if this had been kept in mind.
As early as in the 1830’s the famous expert Count von Veltheim said, during a visit to the stud, “They have solved in a most satisfactory manner the problem of preserving a pure Oriental breed in the northern climate of Europe; from the first generation bone and size are increased without the slightest loss of type”. In addition, Arabians at Weil had to prove performance ability in harness work. It may be mentioned in passing that Arabian races were attempted as early as 1834, but were soon discontinued. At that time the Babolna Stud of Hungary purchased the first Arabians from Weil, which were to have the greatest impact on Hungarian horse breeding. These sales were a new stimulus to Weil. In 1836 the grey stallion Abou Arcoub, the chestnut stallion Dahman, the bay stallions Obeyan and Tajar, as well as several mares were bought from the famous stud of Emir Beschir, a Prince of the Druses. They were all strong and well built horses, but do not appear to have left much of a mark.
Selection, applied both in purchasing and in mating individual animals, was based on an absolute ideal from which not the slightest departure was allowed. It is often said that horses are a product of their time. This is certainly true for warm-blood breeds, but less so for Arabians, their main purpose being the preservation of the pure desert type. Their breeding as practiced at Weil should be an exhortation to us to preserve this ideal of type. One cannot help feeling that while fashions may be justified in breeding riding horses, they have no place in Arabian breeding. The following story illustrates the severity with which standards were adhered to at Weil. In 1838 King William I purchased a stallion from Hampton Court, who was considered one of the most beautiful Arabian stallions in Europe at the time. His origin was undisputed, yet his descendants were only used as performance horses because “although they possessed their father’s fire and spirit and his speed, they lacked refinement”.(continued next post)
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Dec 25 2007, 06:54 PM
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continuing with: ARABIAN HORSE BREEDING AT THE ROYAL STUD OF WEIL AND AT THE HAUPT-UND LANDGESTUT MARBACH Dr. Georg Wenzler The Peak Period 1836-1890
In addition to rigorous selection Weil developed classical breeding methods. Repeated matings to closely related proven stallions, whether imported or home-bred, produced descendants of great uniformity and quality which established the type and reputation of Weil. It became clear that inbreeding caused a reinforcement of the best genetic potential, while exposing undesirable qualities. This close breeding and the resulting homogenization of genetic material are the basis of the prepotency of the Weil type and the impact it was to have in Eastern Europe as well as Germany. While inbreeding was practiced a great deal and with great success, outside blood was constantly tested as well and crossed with great flair with the consolidated inbred foundation stock. The proven lines of Bairactar and Goumousch-Bournou were the constant element. The introduction of sires who later proved indifferent could do little harm, whereas prepotent sires were able to prove their genetic potential to the fullest extent; all too often stallions purchased at great expense turned out to be inferior to those bred at home.
In 1852 Baron Julius von Hugel was put in charge of the direction and management of the Stud. He had traveled widely, both in the Orient and in Europe. He initiated new imports of Arabians. In 1852 Zarif, a classical grey stallion, who had been brought to Europe as a foal by Prince Puckler Muskau, was purchased in East Prussia. His name is still to be found in the pedigrees of Wurttemberg horses. In 1852 the mare Koheil-Aguse of the Koheilan Ajuz strain was purchased from the stud of Abbas Pasha near Cairo. Later she was greatly to influence the Babolna Stud. In the same shipment was the grey mare Sklavia of the Seglawi Jedran strain. In 1860, at the sale of the horses of El Hami Pasha, the 12 years old grey stallion Gadir was purchased. He also was a Seglawi Jedran and a true Nejd Arabian. He had been a successful senior sire at the stud of Abbas Pasha. Gadir had great beauty and balance, and sired mares of high quality and conformation from the inbred Bairactar line. The stallion Seglawi 1864, who was related to Bairactar, was a worthy successor to him.
When King William I died in 1864, Weil Arabians were considered the best in Europe. The Stud in Wurttemberg could boast of the most numerous and beautiful pure Arabians in central Europe. Weil Arabians were in great demand both at home and abroad for improving local horse breeds. A number of celebrated home-bred mare lines had been created. A grandson of Gadir achieved great success at Radautz both in purebred breeding and in developing Shagya breed. The lovely Koheil-Aguse, whose classical beauty captivates in engravings of the period, produced a series of successful progeny at Babolna, when put to the magnificent stallion Amurath-Bairactar.
The creation of several consolidated female foundation lines testifies to the success of the breeding methods practiced; outstanding was the family of Murana I 1808-Murana II 1822- Musa II 1830-Daria V 1837-Lama I 1850-Hamma I 1855-Hamma II 1866-Sabal 1872, with one branch through Soldateska 1911 and Jatta 1933 by Jasir, and the other branch through Saoud 1885-Sakuntala 1892 and Savona 1895-Sardine 1908-Carmen 1915. (see mare tables)
Another famous mare line was that of Czebessie II 1814-Safra I 1823-Wanda I 1830-Safra II 1838-Kereja V 1851-Kereja VI 1862-Selma V 1871-Koheil III 1876.
Another family that flourished at the time was that of Hassfoura D.B. 1811-Elkanda I 1818-Banka I 1823, with one branch through Goa I 1830-Goa IV 1866-Anusa 1880, and the other branch through Kaaba II 1832-Elkanda IV 1842-Elkanda V 1848-Obeja 1862. Obeja 1862 was the granddam of Amurath 1881, being the dam of his sire Tajar 1873.
Other successful female foundation lines were that of Geyran I 1811-Geyran II 1829-Geyran III 1845, and that of Hamdany I D.B. 1816-Sady III 1821-Hazam IV 1831-Abululu IV 1850-Dzelaby I 1861-Dzelaby II 1866-Sady 1877-Sarah 1891. Amurath 1829 traces to this line.
King William I’s successor, King Charles (1864-1891) was not so devoted to horses. Moreover, the growing population and increasingly intensive farming methods led to different requirements demanding a heavier, and above all a bigger working horse. Although the new trends had no immediate effect on Arabian breeding at Weil, the Stud did not remain completely unaffected by the new fashions which were pushing the breeding of lighter and refined horses into the background. In the seventies (1870's) , breeding stock at Weil was reduced to make room for English Thoroughbreds. In spite of this, the Arabians continued to flourish. During the next two decades the principle of close breeding alternating with the introduction of proven outside stallions was continued. Female lines descending from Bairactar were the foundation on which outcross stallions, such as Gadir, could build to produce exceptional stock. A peak was reached with the stallion Amurath 1881, whose achievements as a sire remained unequalled to this day. He is the foundation of the pure Arabian and warm-blood breeds of Austria and Hungary through the Radautz Stud, and his sons and grandsons have had a strong impact on horse breeding in Northern Germany, in Holstein, Hannover and East Prussia. After 1918 Poland and Czechoslovakia used his sons and grandsons with the greatest success. At least in Germany, there is no stallion whose influence in any way equals that of Amurath 1881.
Amurath 1881, by Tajar out of Koheil III, was sold to Radautz Stud at the age of 14. His career ended with his death at the age of 30. His importance can be gauged by the fact that, during 16 years at Radautz, he sired 315 outstanding offspring. His sons Amurath I and Amurath II sired 61 colts who were used as stallions in national studs, and 71 fillies who joined the broodmare band.
Amurath 1881 is an example of intelligent inbreeding. In his pedigree Amurath 1829 appears twice in the 4th generation and three times in the 5th. Bairactar appears no less than twelve times in the 5th to 7th generation. Amurath 1881 mainly resembled Bairactar and Goumousch-Bournou. It was not surprising that such a concentration of the best blood led to such peaks in breeding in both female and male lines.
In 1880 Count von Cronsfeld was appointed stud manager. He saw a danger in the policy of inbreeding as it had been practiced for decades, partly because of the reduction in the broodmare band and partly because he was influenced by the breeding methods current at the time with warm-blood horse breeds. He therefore departed from the well-proven method of deliberate inbreeding which had led to the fame of Weil, and which should be differently regarded with respect to the Arab than with any other horse breed. His breeding was based on using outcrosses but lacked any clear definition of the ultimate goal.
The magnificent Amurath 1881 was sold to Radautz and as no other stallion stood at Weil, the Bairactar line soon became extinct in the male line. While Amurath 1881, in a brilliant career, made an impact on all Eastern Europe, at Weil it was left to the mares to preserve the heritage, as there was no stallion. It is an open question whether the continuation of the traditional breeding policies would have ensured continued success. And it must be realized that such a zenith as was reached by Weil cannot be upheld forever and that leaner times must follow. Nevertheless, the grey stallion Djerid, who was senior stallion from 1876-1890, was an asset to the Stud....continued next post...
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continuing with... ARABIAN HORSE BREEDING AT THE ROYAL STUD OF WEIL AND AT THE HAUPT-UND LANDGESTUT MARBACH Dr. Georg Wenzler The Decline 1890-1932In 1891, King William II on ascending the throne, also took over the direction of the Weil Stud. The hope that the glorious tradition of Weil would be resumed soon proved to be misplaced. William II was more interested in English Thoroughbreds. The mare herd was therefore reduced to about 10 head in 1901. As a consequence of this devaluation, any far-sighted purposeful breeding policy was lacking. Several stallions were used, each for a short period only. Of these Souakim 1894 proved a valuable sire.
Souakim was out of the chestnut mare Smyrna D.B., who had been bought in the desert near Damascus with Souakim in utero and brought to Weil in 1897. Souakim’s origin led critics to cast doubts on the purity of Weil breeding. This was entirely unjustified, as Souakim unquestionably was desert-bred and moreover the Weil Stud, for 80 years, had remained unswervingly loyal to the principle of pure breeding.
Meanwhile the principle of outcrossing came in vogue, any pairing of related animals was shunned. One of the stallions used was Demir Kaja, a son of Djeilan D.B. out of the Amurath 1881 daughter Sakuntala. He was succeeded by Dardziling, bred at the Polish Stud of Slawuta. Dardziling, by Mazepa out of Omega by Antar, was senior stallion only from 1914 to 1917, although he sired good mares. In 1917 he was exchanged for the much less valuable Djeiran. The latter was a Turkoman acquired in Trakehnen. He was not a good sire and remained senior stallion much too long, from 1817 to 1929. His descendants had little Arabian type and all, except one, were eliminated. From 1921 to 1924 Demir Kaja was also used; he had been leased to Trakehnen and was brought back in exchange for Sven Hedin. Unfortunately, he was soon sold off to Poland, as the management failed to recognize his value. He might have been a way out of the deadlock which lasted through World War I and its aftermath, and could have laid the ground for a new successor. This is no idle speculation, as he was a son of Djeilan D.B. out of Sakuntala, daughter of Amurath 1881, and was therefore closely related to Weil stock. Another stallion used after World War I, from 1918 to 1930, was Dynamit, born 1902, by Souakim out of Dueba by Djerid, who was active until a ripe old age. His offspring were strong but not very typey. The main feature of that period was the constant change and indiscriminate use of senior stallions. No wonder that the glory of old Weil began to fade.
The Stud received a new lease of life when it passed to Princess Pauline zu Wied, daughter of William II, in 1921. She was a highly gifted breeder. World War I had left deep scars on the Stud. With great boldness the Princess had the Dynamit son Said exchanged for Koheilan IV, then 21 years old, by Koheilan II out of O’Bajan, bred of Babolna and of classical beauty. Here at long last was an equal partner for the mares. In spite of his age, he sired several mares of outstanding type and beauty. He was without doubt the best stallion since the turn of the century. Despite the difficulties of the period, the Princess insisted on expanding the mare band to fourteen. In 1928 and 1929, breeding stock could once again be sold to Polish studs. The Princess did her utmost to develop the Arab herd, although the economic crisis brought hard times for the Stud. “They were overcome”(P.von Wied 1953). She had a high sense of duty towards the Weil heritage and wrote in her book, “From the foundation by King William I, the Stud was focused on noble horses. It was started with the introduction of Arabians who have retained to this day dryness and refinement. I therefore considered it an obligation to introduce the Original Arabian stallion Jasir, who is a very prepotent sire”.
It was C.R. Raswan, one of the foremost Arabian and equine specialists, who helped to acquire Jasir in 1930 from the Manial Stud of Prince Mohamed Ali. Raswan knew the Arabs well, having lived with them for several years in the desert. Jasir was regarded as “one of the three best Arabian stallions outside Arabia” (Bauer). He was of the Koheilan Jellabi strain, but he also carried much Seglawi blood, and it was he who took the Stud through its darkest years. Jasir was to be the last senior sire to stand at Weil and to carry on the old tradition. Great hopes were placed in him and they were fully justified. He left behind a string of mares of outstanding disposition. Weiss described Jasir as follows, “A stocky Koheilan type, he had a short small head with a broad, bulging forehead. His profile showed a well-pronounced dish, with large nostrils, huge eyes, and disc-like jowls. The neck was on the short side, a characteristic of his family, and very muscular. He was famous for his powerful and well sloped shoulders, his broad chest, and barrel-shaped ribs. He had strong loins, a long croup and high tail set. He was very sweet tempered. In the open, especially under saddle, he was full of vitality. His descendants, all grey, all closely resembled him.
Despite new breeding successes and strenuous efforts at preserving the Stud, it was impossible to make ends meet. In 1932 the Princess reluctantly decided to make over the Royal Arabian Stud, now more than 115 years old, to the State of Wurttemberg, because the will of William I forbade the Stud to be disbanded. It is a historical fact that the State of Wurttemberg took over this royal heritage and gave the Stud a new home at the venerable Principal State Stud at Marbach. Seventeen horses, descendants of famous ancestors, left Weil for an uncertain future and greatly altered circumstances. Soon after, they settled down in the hills of the Swabian Alb, and gave rise to new hopes. But had it not been for the enthusiasm and care with which several keen and courageous men, such as Prof. Dr. Sohnle of Hohenheim and above all stud manager Storz, accepted this new challenge in spite of the economic crisis, then the oldest, purest, and most precious source of Arabian blood in Germany would have been irretrievably lost. We owe a deep debt of gratitude to the State of Wurttemberg for saving the cultural heritage of this unique Arabian stud. Ever since that day in 1932, Arabian horses have galloped over the paddocks of Marbach and given pleasure to many horse lovers. To thousands of visitors, and especially to the young, these beautiful horses on the vast enclosures shaded by huge beech trees are an unforgettable sight.(end) This book was actually a Marbach Stud Book if I recall correctly, with what I've posted being the 'intro"...? I have some more related files and will try to sort through those and get more posted.
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List of stallions in alphabetical order used at Weil 1817-1931 [This list comes from the Weil studbook. It is a list of stallions that were used at Weil. Most have offspring that have produced at Weil.]
Amurath, 1829, grey, by Bairactar out of Sady III at stud in Weil from 1933-1857 Amurath, 1855, grey, by Amurath 1829 out of Geyran III at stud in Weil from 1859-1866 Amurath, 1881, grey, by Tajar 1873 out of Koheil III at stud in Weil from 1885-1895 Araber, 1905, grey, by Salamander out of Amadine at stud in Weil 1908 Arcoub, 1854, grey, by Amurath 1829 out of Saja III at stud in Weil from 1858-1881 Bairactar, 1813, grey, Imported from the desert at stud in Weil from 1817-1838 Bangor, 1848, black, Bought or imported in 1852 at stud in Weil from 1852-1854 Bournu, grey, imported in 1819 at stud in Weil from 1819-1824 Bournu, 1821, grey, by Bournu out of Kabron I at stud in Weil 1825 Bournu, 1849, grey, by Amurath 1829 out of Beko III at stud in Weil from 1853-1869 Chaban, grey, imported in 1833 at stud in Weil from 1833-1839 Chaban, 1844, bay, by Amurath 1829 out of Mara III at stud in Weil from1848-1864 Cham, 1835, chestnut, imported from Damascus in 1841 at stud in Weil from 1841-1851 Dachaman, 1873, grey, by Seglavi out of Kereja VI at stud in Weil from 1877-1888 Damascus, 1843, grey, by Amurath 1829 out of a non Arabian mare Djeilan, 1890, chestnut, imported in 1898 at stud in Weil from 1899-1904 Djerid, 1871, grey, imported from Egypt Abbas Pasha at stud in Weil from 1876-1890 Doge, 1891, bay, by Scheik out of Dueba at stud in Weil from 1896-1905 Dolmetscher, 1901, grey, by Doge out of Amadine at stud in Weil 1907 Dzelaby, 1836, grey imported or bought in 1847 at stud in Weil from 1847-1854 Gadir, 1847, grey, imported from Egypt Abbas Pasha in 1861 at stud in Weil from 1861-1866 Hedban, 1848, bay, imported from Egypt from Khedive Pasha in 1852 at stud in Weil from 1852-1853 Jemscheed, 1840, grey, bought or imported from England at stud in Weil from 1847-1851 Mazud, 1838, grey, by Bairactar out of Hazam IV at stud in Weil from 1842-1848 Padischah, 1826, grey, imported or bought in 1838 at stud in Weil from 1838-1842 Padischah, 1884, bay, imported in 1893 from the Sultan of Turkey at stud in Weil from 1894-1898 Salamander, 1897, grey, by Doge out of Sarah at stud in Weil from 1902-1905 Samum 1901, chestnut by Souakim out of Sylphide I at stud in Weil 1905 Scheik, 1868, black, imported from Egypt Abbas Pasha in 1876 at stud in Weil from 1876-1893 Seglavi, 1864, grey, by Bournu out of Hamdany VI at stud in Weil from 1868-1884 Seladon, 1903, bay, by Doge out of Sylphide I at stud in Weil 1907 Selim, 1828, grey by Bairactar out of Sady III at stud in Weil 1832 Selim, 1896, grey, by Amurath 1881 out of Selma at stud in Weil from1903-1906 Souakim, 1894, chestnut, imported in utero by original arab out of Smyrna at stud in Weil 1899 Sultan Mahmud, grey, imported or bought in 1828 at stud in Weil from 1828-1837 Sybarit, grey, 1902, by Souakim out of Sylphide I at stud in Weil from 1906-1907 Tajar, bay, 1851, by Amurath 1829 out of Geyran III at stud in Weil from 1855-1866 Tajar, bay, 1862, by Tajar 1851 out of Daria VI at stud in Weil from 1867-1877 Tajar, bay, 1873, by Tajar 1862 out of Obeja at stud in Weil from 1877-1887 Zarif, grey, 1837, imported or bought in 1852 at stud in Weil from 1852-1859
List of the mare families that have produced on at Weil.
Family I Murana I 1808 (Still in existence today) Family II Hassfoura 1811 female tail line of the stallion Tajar 1873 Family III Geyran I 1811 female tail line of Tajar 1851 and Amurath 1855 Family IV Kabron I 1813 female tail line of Bournu 1821 Family V Hamdany I 1816 female tail line of Selim 1828, Amurath 1829, Mazud 1838 and Salamander 1897 Family VI Czebessie II 1814 female tail line of Bournu 1849, Dachaman 1873, Seglavi 1864, Amurath 1881, Doge 1891, Araber 1905, Family VII Koheil-Aguse Family VIII Smyrna 1890, female tail line of Souakim 1894 Family IX Nadja 1955 (Still in existence today) Family X Moheba I 1951 (Still in existence today)
The list of these mares are the original imported mares that did produce on at Weil. All except Murana I, Nadja dnd Moheba I are lost in female lines. They are however found commonly in the Polish horses mostly through Amurath Sahib.
Murana I had 16 generations through 1971 Hassfoura female line had 9 generations Geyran I had 4 generations Kabron I had 2 generations. Just her and her son Bournu 1821 (btw-she was a black mare) Hamdany I had 11 generations Czebessie II had 12 generations Koheil-Aguse had 5 generations Smyrna had 3 generations Nadja in 1971 had 2 Moheba had 4 generations
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